Hi. I have some inside baseball for you, but- basically I don’t respond well to threats, especially baseless ones. And if this had been approached a different way, I wouldn’t be posting anything about this at all, but as a graduate from … Continue reading

Marvel Might Not Know What Reporting Is

Hi.

I have some inside baseball for you, but- basically I don’t respond well to threats, especially baseless ones. And if this had been approached a different way, I wouldn’t be posting anything about this at all, but as a graduate from New York University with a minor in Journalism (and a degree in Dramatic Writing) – and most importantly as a Marvel fan – I got pissed off.

I understand a company wanting to protect their property by independently investigating information leaks, but unless that leak is of something they own – say a photo from a closed set or a prop someone found on a…I dunno…street? In the bay where they dumped all the extras for the ‘Iron Man 3′ plane stunt? – it is hard to argue that disseminating information is illegal.

Anyway, I’m not stealing anything. I hear things and people I know hear things, then you talk to all the people who are in a position to know things and see if Person A can confirm Person B (and, ideally, Person C).

We’ve lost the ever-important “Exclusive” tag waiting on confirmations and things. Don’t believe me? Our URLs can’t lie. Go look at URL of that David Slade post again.

Anyway, I received an e-mail from a Marvel e-mail address claiming I was doing something illegal by blogging about ‘Guardians’ and ‘Iron Man 3.’

Here’s the disclaimer that was at the very bottom of my correspondence:

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Nothing contained in this e-mail shall (a) be considered a legally binding agreement, amendment or modification of any agreement with Marvel, each of which requires a fully executed agreement to be received by Marvel or (b) be deemed approval of any product, packaging, advertising or promotion material, which may only come from Marvel’s Legal Department.

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In other words, this isn’t actual legal action with legal power, it’s bullying. It’s bullying that didn’t even think to put a disclaimer on the end asking me not to re-distribute it anywhere. The closest thing to that is at the very bottom: “THINK GREEN – SAVE PAPER – THINK BEFORE YOU PRINT!”

Here’s the e-mail. Names, addresses and phone numbers have been deleted, because I’m sure this guy is just doing his job, but bold text, spacing issues of this obvious form letter and incorrect assertions of illegality have been left in tact.

Dear Dave:

My name is [COOL STORY, BRO!] and I am an independent security consultant working for Marvel. I have worked as a security consultant for Marvel since 1982. I am currently conducting an investigation on Marvel’s behalf regarding the dissemination of confidential, non-public information concerningIron Man 3 and Guardians of the Galaxy. The executives at Marvel are extremely upset regarding the release of this information and they have instructed me to find you and ascertain how you received it.  My goal is to accomplish this in a quiet manner. I do not want to see you or anyone else get into trouble nor do I want to see anyone’s career be tarnished because of this.  However I am very confident that through your efforts and mine, we will be able to work through this together.  I personally feel that you did not have any malicious intent when you posted your spoilers on the fanboy website.  Like many fans out there, you just wanted to be the first one to post something on the internet.  I get it, however the Iron Man 3 and Guardians of the Galaxyinformation was confidential and you did not have Marvel’s consent to post it. That was illegal!

If you provide me with your source, I will make it worth your effort.  I want to work with you.  As I stated above, I do not want to see you or anyone else get into trouble.  That would be a lose-lose for everyone.  I would hope that you are now realizing that this is a very serious matter and the consequences will be quite severe if I do not find out how you obtained the Iron Man 3 and Guardians of the Galaxy information.

My goal is to ascertain how you got the Iron Man 3 and Guardians of the Galaxy informationand make this go away.  All information you provide will remain confidential, even your identity.  Your source will never know.   Let’s work together and make this happen before it is too late. To date, everyone I have worked with has not suffered any consequences.  I do not want to see this situation get blown out of proportion.  However if we do not work together, I will have no choice but to take this investigation to the next level and I will not stop until this investigation is completed.

Please get back to me with your thoughts and let me know how you would like to proceed. It is my goal to bring this matter to closure as quickly and quietly as possible.   Thank you for your time and please get back to me as soon as possible.

If you would like to talk, you can reach me at [xxx-xxx-xxxx]

 

Thank you

[Guy Who Signs The Form Letters]

I don’t even know where to start.

I genuinely love my Marvel and their properties. I’ve seen ALL their movies, even the NOW BURNT FANTASTIC FOUR, why do you have to come out with: “I don’t want to see anyone’s career be tarnished because of this“?

And to condescend with “Like many fans out there, you just wanted to be the first one to post something on the internet,” come on. I’m not just a fan (imagine your hell if I was the typical fan) and I wasn’t “one of the first” I was THE. FIRST. and – as we see through Hall H and this letter – completely factually correct in my assertions.

I’m not responding to this e-mail outside of this post, because I’ve done nothing wrong. A representative of my favorite comics house just stepped into my life with no legal authority to demand anything and threatened my career for doing my job well.

Although I guess I can stop wondering why Brian Michael Bendis has blocked me from Twitter for over a year now.

And maybe I need my own form letter.

Dear Reader,
Thank you for contacting me about    my job     and your personal reaction to my piece on    Guardians of the Galaxy and Iron Man 3    it always means a lot to hear from fans of my work. Keep reading     Latino-Review.com    for more    Marvel   coverage!

-Da7e-

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  • http://www.thepixelpuse.com/ Aj Meadows

    Classy move Marvel Legal squad! It reminds me of the time I got a cease and desist for posting a screencap of a publicly released Prometheus TV spot. Except the email I received was nowhere near as condescending or intimidating. This guy(?) just comes off as so unprofessional. Weird stuff.

  • SUPER_Douche

    Dude is a major doornob…
    Since 1982…?
    How old is this @sshole, sending bully letters!?!

    Da7e, you’ve always been a class act.
    Head held high, bro.
    Glad you showed us this missive.

    F*ck Marvel.
    Train your talking/writing dogs better.

  • http://www.facebook.com/todd.kostelac Todd A Kostelac

    just trying to figure out what u said so bad???

  • http://twitter.com/tjwoodcth Terry Wood

    The letter’s not just bullying it borders on extortion. “give me your source and I’ll make it worth your while” The implication is if you don’t ,something bad will happen. Geez, the Marvel Mafia.

    Just because a business deems information confidential in no way makes it illegal to report. Face Front and read the First Amendment Marvel. Sure, whoever leaked the information may have violated a confidentiality clause, but that is not the media’s problem.

    How sophomoric.

  • http://twitter.com/rorshachisgod wkovaks

    did you do an ip trace to make sure it was from marvel? they usually send out cease and desist letters

  • http://www.facebook.com/mik.collins Mik Collins

    My first thought was that this letter isn’t even close to professionally written. It reads like it was written by a crosseyed 11 year old exchange student (no offense to 11 year old exchange students with head trauma). I’m assuming there’s a person B (and as you say, ideally a person C) who has confirmed this letter is the real deal? If you’ve verified this wasn’t a prank this is pretty heavy handed to get over a movie with a space racoon.

  • A_Wise_Man

    I don’t always blackmail news sites…
    But when I do…they are empty threats…

    Stay confidential my friends.

  • A_Wise_Man

    Bro this looks like a fake.

  • Chemsem

    Sorry, I’m a little slow. What exactly was so mind boggling about the scoops? Was it that you knew the movies that were being developed before the rest of the world? Was this before the CON this year? Did you reveal the cast/characters/villains? I don’t know what is so wrong. Can someone fill me in? Thanks

  • venvariants

    Yeah, well. These are the people who chose Don Cheadle over Terrence Howard, and Tim Story over Sean Astin. With the impulse to shove Venom into another Spider-Man movie instead of The Vulture, they are proving not to be the brightest bulbs in the box.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Ham-Burger/100002103331652 Ham Burger

    I think you have been had by a master troll/fanboy.

  • http://www.facebook.com/wayne.lewis.520 Wayne Lewis

    I’m a lawyer and I read read Latino Review practically everyday, and I appreciate the site very much. If this letter is legit, in my opinion they are not really after you, they are after the leak. You have no duty to protect Marvel’s confidential information unless you signed an agreement with them or procured it in an illegal manner. This is a “we don’t care about the user, just the supplier situation”. I would not be surprised if you are not the only film review site that received this letter.

  • https://twitter.com/#!/haversam [A]

    Marvel should hire Dexter Colt..

  • http://www.facebook.com/martindeleon65 Martin DeLeon

    I’m more than sure the letter in question isnt from a so called security consultant who works for marvel or anyone else. The manner in which it was written & verbage used gives it away. Seems more like a disgruntled fanboy from a competeing site may have some beef with you for having the ”EXCLUSIVES” & may just be trying to shake you up a bit. I wouldn’t worry about it much.

  • beane2099

    Tim Story was a FOX decision; Venom was a Sony decision. Several studios have the film rights to some of Marvel’s characters. Marvel Studios doesn’t have the film rights to Spiderman, all things X Men, Daredevil, and Ghost Rider. Maybe you meant something else though.

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  • http://www.facebook.com/jason.white.94801 Jason White

    I agree with the people who think this letter is a fake. The writing in this letter is awful. Anyone who works as a security consultant would write a better form letter, and there would be far more legal jargon in said letter. I think it was someone with too much time on their hands. Keep up the great REPORTING!

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  • Liderc

    Agreed. This is not a real letter and if you can’t tell that, you’re as dumb as they’re trying to make you look.

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  • venvariants

    Awesome. Love the literacy!

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  • beane2099

    Okay then. I suppose that’s a response. But you SEEMED to be linking the decision to use Venom instead of the Vulture to the same folks that sent that email. If you were, I was trying to tell you they’re not the same people. Marvel/Disney has little input into what Sony puts into the Spiderman movies. If that isn’t what you were saying, then what were you trying to say?

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  • venvariants

    No, man – if you’ve got facts, that’s cool!! I was wrong, obviously – so right on. I like news like this. Now I know. I like the literacy because when you comment, and someone responds – it’s usually some insult or some mean-spirited wise crack. You actually gave me some real information here – so right on.

  • http://Latino-Review.com/ Kellvin Chavez

    Thanks Wayne and that’s the point WE never signed anything with Marvel.

  • http://Latino-Review.com/ Kellvin Chavez

    It is a real letter hence THR did a story on it and contacted Marvel directly.

  • http://Latino-Review.com/ Kellvin Chavez

    It was because we knew about Guardians of the Galaxy and we reported a lot of stuff from Iron Man 3 that was spot on. And Marvel didn’t like it.

  • http://Latino-Review.com/ Kellvin Chavez

    NOT fake and it also came from a Marvel email, which THR investigated and did a report on it.

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  • Chemsem

    Wow. Just because you knew about it was enough to get their dander up? That’s amazing. Its not like you gave out script details. They should be thrilled that their reputation and info precedes them. don’t let them scare you, keep up the good work.

  • beane2099

    Ah. I see. I don’t like online insults. Even “joking” insults can have issues cause of the lack of context that comes with not having a tone of voice or facial expression that goes with the comment. But I DO like a good debate.

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  • http://twitter.com/Thor_Odinson ThorOdinson

    That’s not extortion. Extortion is “give me your source or something bad will happen.” Saying that they’ll make it worth their while is the exact opposite of extortion.

  • http://www.facebook.com/StephenMCroft Steve Croft

    It’s a template letter. They mail merge it with names, movies, issues etc and send it out. Its why its so condescending.

  • http://www.facebook.com/StephenMCroft Steve Croft

    I agree with most of those but the moment you rant about Don Cheadle over Terrence Howard? Are you smoking blue meth?

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  • A_Wise_Man

    Well its a real email then with a fake threat. They have no way of delivering on their unsaid threats.

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  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Mike-Hayslip/1294514034 Mike Hayslip

    probably an INTERN at Marvel trying to prove himself.

  • http://twitter.com/AnonKopimi Anon Kopimi

    Send Marvel a new stick so they can replace the tired old one stuck up their butt.

  • http://twitter.com/AnonKopimi Anon Kopimi

    You should have sent them the name of Al Gore’s massage therapist – they sound a little too bound up to do PR business properly.

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  • Storymark

    Dude… you MIGHT want to actually do some reading yourself before attacking the literacy of others. Wow.

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