BOY dont play with my emotions

I guess WB/DC is not doing this either because Thanos appeared at the end of THE AVENGERS, right? SMH……….

There’s no way an established IP like The Avengers loses the box office to Justice League in 2015. Not with multiple films in the next few years leading up to it again, continuing to generate interest.

Depends on how they use Darkseid. He could still be a build up. There are characters in the DC universe who work for Darkseid, so that could all be part of the JL dealing with a threat on Earth ie. characters being controlled by Darkseid. A confrontation with Darkseid at the end could be the action finale a big movie like this would need.

Well giving a second thought they can make a Thanagarians (dangerous hawkman aliens, See Justice league animated series) as villians. Maybe in second part they can make Darksied as Main Villain.

For this first movie, I’d say a Machiavellian schemer like Lex Luthor or (my preference) Vandal Savage, who has a number of powerful supervillains working with or for him. Darkseid for the first movie is probably too much. JUSTICE LEAGUE 2 can’t possibly top that antagonist. He should be built up.

This is gonna be awesome! I’m still hoping that Reynolds will resprise his GL role though, he was pretty cool.

Let’s hope we get scene a scene in the movie just like this. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ywo6F4xYTvA

This is just dumb.They are setting up themeslves for more unfavorable avengers comparisons with choosing a thanos like villain. Dont they have brains?Look there are other Jl villains that are just as big.
Hyperclan,Omacs,etc Why Cockblock themselves with Darkseid

Wrong…Most of the Marvel movies are story based. Iron man is pretty much 70% story. Did you even count the action scenes? The same for Captain America and Thor. Hulk is the only action based and that’s because the comic is.

You can’t use Batman to represent the seriousness of all DC movies. Superman was boring and Green Lantern was a joke. Watchmen is the only one worth noting and had about the same amount of action as the Captain America film which was mostly story.

…And if Justice League does well, which I know it will; at this point it’s because of the success of the Avengers. People have already been broken into the concept. Being a DC and Marvel guy, I have no problems with it. It could probably do better than the first Avengers, but what about Avengers 2? Either way it’s good for comic fans.

Look to Young Justice to see how this could have played out without Darksied. A secret group of villains known as “The Light” distracting the League with smaller criminal escapades while executing an even bigger plan to destroy the heroes and humanity.

One thing DC could do to out-do Marvel’s Avengers is to make the crisis seem more world threatening. I know DC doesn’t us real cities like Marvel does. But Avengers never really gave me a sense that the whole world was in danger and not just New York. Make it global or make it take place in space near Earth , have Dark Seid open a boom tube and have the JL waiting for him on the moon or something. I think that would help get the audience more attached to the movie.

Marvel has a plan. They introduced each character seperatly before they met up in The Avengers. DC is doing the reverse which is a very bad idea.

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!
Why would you lead with your biggest bad guy in the FIRST movie???? Where does the league go from there? Starro? Gorilla Grodd? Playing chess with Despero? WTF!

What, no love for Starro?

People are worrying about how they’ll follow Darkseid in Justice League 2. Good grief! I’ll be happy if JL1 ever gets made! And besides, I think a Legion of Doom (a la Alex Ross’ “Justice”) would be a great follow up — one big baddie for each member.

Also, Granny Goodness is NOT corny. A big, evil woman who enslaves young girls and trains them to be evil warriors? Pretty scary shit.

Everyone is counting on that Batman and Superman first appearance together in the movies, aren’t they? I hate to break it to you, but comic fans have clamored for that for decades, NOT the general non-comic reading public, or “grandmothers like you suggest. The general public doesn’t understand why it’s even a thing, as “Superman would just kill Batman” and why is it even a contest, they would ask. And our money isn’t enough to justify making the movie, so I hope they know what they’re doing.

Mr. Kentt. Might have to disagree with you there. Batman will draw people (though it will not be Nolan’s Batman) and Superman might draw fans in to a degree (despite the decline in the character’s box office power over the past few years). But many of the other JL members are not known to the general public. We all saw what happened with the GL movie, which is not a good starting point for DC’s non-Supers or Bats lineup. I am all for Darkseid being a JLA villain down the road, but if he is the very first threat that the JLA faces, then that actually diminishes him as a character. What could be bigger than Darkseid? It also lowers the stakes for any sequels if WB blows their load with the JLA’s biggest threat on the first outing.

Plus, we won’t get to flesh out other Justice Leaguers and their worlds with all the peeps they need to introduce. And because of this, anything that the main characters lose (loved one or their lives) to Darkseid will have little impact since there was no build up for the audience to care.

The reason why Agent Coulson dying in Avengers had such impact (despite being a minor character) is because he was built up over many Marvel films. Who’s really going to care if Central City (Flash’s home) gets destroyed by Darkseid wen we never were given a reason to care about it or its inhabitants?

“at this point it’s because of the success of The Avengers”… very, very wrong. All you have to do is combine all Superman and Batman fans and you already have a higher grossing movie than any Avengers movie that will be made. Trust me, everybody has been waiting for the Justice League longer than anybody waited for The Avengers.

Here the first problem with the justice league movie, BRUCE WAYNE ISNT IN IT…A FOUNDING MEMBER OF THE JUSTICE LEAGUE

Are we debating whether JLA or Avengers is better? Yes, and I’m in BABY!!! Listen (or read), Avengers had the potential be awesome. Whedon and co., stepped in and took past all expectations. That said, Justice League has the potential to be mythical in it’s greatness. But it all comes down to execution. Iron Man sprang from so-so hero to practically replacing Spider Man as Marvel’s mascot because of how good Iron Man was (your opinion of that movie will vary, but it still did wonders for the character). But then we had Green Lantern, a character with great potential that’s been shot down because of a poor movie (and shall we mention Superman Returns?). Anyways, at this very moment, JLA has the potential to blow away Avengers or to be a big embarrassment. But right now that’s all this movie is: potential. I don’t feel that Darkseid is the right way to go, but I’ll wait and see.

I think they should have done a a hook and mislead with with Rouge cadmas experiments (or anti hero hero/non heroes) truly led by Lex getting out of hand. inadvertently summoning a more powerful world threatening villain like eclipse… currently fleeing from darksied.

DC has more well known characters but a lack of direction (as they always have). They re-wright the DC multiverse constantly… great idea done wrong. They need to make their coming together last minuet. I think braniac would be the best villain for it but have it where he is not advertised as the main villain… just arriving or getting powerfull enough to physically battle in the last 25% of the film.

As you can see he gets the hits in but winning a real fight against Darkside is not an option alone!!!!!

Holy shit this actress IS WONDER WOMAN…

and she wants the role, look at the tweet she sent out today (below)….. her name is julie paige?? Up and coming girl from NYC

http://www.flickr.com/photos/90757374@N07/8242731383/

http://www.flickr.com/photos/90757374@N07/8242731439/

I think Betty White would make an awesome Granny Goodness, personally. ^_^

FUK U MAH FUKA

I’m a HULK comic fan. Maybe I was stretching with that “purely”. That was my perception growing up on it as a kid. Loved to see him “smash”. But you’re right; HULK has a great story unfolding as well…..especially recently

DAN TURPIN! The man’s name is DAN Turpin!
Something you might remember if you had read a comic book with him in it, instead of just hearing the name spoken on an animated series…

Superman has more than 75 years of history. You can’t base your poor judgment in something so pedestrian and shallow as the last Superman Returns’ box office. As for the movies only, SUPERMAN THE MOVIE starring Christopher Reeve, set the standard for all of the superhero movies ever made after that. Superman and Batman popularity is not base only on movies from the last decade or so. And most I remind you that the Avengers comic was created as a copy of the Justice League of America comic, back in the 60′s?

While Marvel has an established film series the DC universe has nothing at this moment in time;

Batman’s film series has ended and has been confirmed to be rebooted for the justice league movie meaning nothing happened!

Superman is getting his origin story retold for the 4th? time in film – those films being Superman 1948, Superman 1978, Superman returns and Man of Steel. We dont need to hear his freaking back story again, this is just padding!

Wonder Woman has a film that might happen which the only news about was people stating it was in development in 2010 and nothing has been heard since…

Face it, DC pulled this out their ass to try and compete with ‘The Avengers 2′ and trick people into believing that Justice League is the Avengers 2 by giving a similar villain.

Essentially – by 2015 the Justice league film will likely only have Superman and possibly Wonder Woman as prequels, neither of which will likely be that succesful – Wonder woman will probably flop depending on how they tell the story.

Thanos is a crappy Darkseid knockoff. Superman, Batman, Green Lantern, Martian Manhunter, Flash, and Wonderwoman outdo the Avengers in terms of cool superheroes.

and the audience gets dumber…

Superman might be a god, but he’s a god raised in Kansas with salt-of-the-Earth values and as Clark Kent is a geeky, bumbling, shy loner who we can all relate to. We always want to show the world what we can do if given the opportunity to do so. He has the wisdom to use his powers for good in a world with people, such as yourself or any poster who feels he’s too OP’d for that matter, that seeks to destroy people like him. He’s the ultimate symbol of hope and good we all want to be, and it sucks because we know in our hearts because if we had his powers, and none of us had the Kents to raise us, we’d all be evil little pricks like Lex Luthor. That’s a story that’s universal and relateable, being powerful and not knowing quite how to show it.

Wonder Woman: Child of the Gods, Warrior for Peace sent to Man’s world to save us from the forces of Ares and the forces of war. While her gender is a gag that gets poked at for like 5 minutes, it gets tossed away when she starts going toe-to-toe with demons of Tartarus. She also will use conventional weapons beyond the Lasso of Truth like sword and shield, and even dons battle armour for major battles when she deems it necessary. She’s essentially Thor only female. Done.

Flash: A CSI who is methodical and meticulous to the point he has to stop to worry about everyone individually ever since his mom was murdered by a villain he didn’t even make yet and his father took the blame and went to jail. Ironic for a guy that can move and the speed of light and even alter time. Always blaming himself for the faults of others and always feeling alone because he has to slow down for everyone else to even speak to him normally. Not to mention he has a wicked inferiority complex because he failed to save his mother, failed to get his dad out, and he’s the Fastest Man Alive, and yet he’s chasing the Trickster around a Jewelery store while Superman’s up there towing the moon on a chain. We can all relate to not feeling we belong in the same league as the Man of Tomorrow or the World’s Greatest Detective.

His superspeed isn’t just a matter of running though: He can vibrate his molecules to pass through solid objects like walls or bullets; healing factor; accelerated metabolism; re-direct bullets with careful precision back at their owners, or away from innocent people; run counterclockwise to a hurricane or tornado and stop it, or create his own cyclones; race across water before he has time to sink; INFINITE MASS PUNCH, he gets up to top speed, he can make even Superman or Darkseid implode, and in fact, the Justice League has used this ability for Flash to build up speed enough to kick him in the head, effectively putting the big guy down, while the others distract him.

Green Lantern was actually done perfectly in his outing. The fault was in the screenwriters not knowing how to properly translate it to cinema. Ryan Reynolds did Hal Jordan as a cocky test-pilot, but seeing as this was the origin story bogged down by too many ideas spoon-fed to the audience, we never got to see it quite flourish the way we wanted it to.

Martian Manhunter is Spock. No, seriously. Unlike Superman, who came here as a baby and was raised by us, J’onn Jonzz came here as an adult and views us as outsiders and feels even more disconnected being the last of his kind than Superman, the Last Son of Krypton, does. He has to learn to grow to even care for these people. We all relate to that, why with this movie: Why should we care about these characters? He has the chance to be the cynical audience perspective if you let him.

Aquaman might have a bad rap, but let’s face it, the rest of the world police 1/4 of the Earth, and he has the remaining 3. Superstrong, considering he can walk in Marianas Trench and the Laurentian Abyss and be unimpeded even though that’d be like walking thru sand down there. Agile, and he has the Trident of Posedion, the deadly spear which sort of acts in the fashion Mjolnir does for Thor.

Character-wise, besides the rhetoric of the public, he is a king in exile who doesn’t belong on either world because he is ridiculed by troglodies, or hated for caring too much for the surface world. He just can’t seem to get a break or fit in anywhere. You also ask if he’s vital? He’s on a team of superheroes that all thing they’re king-shit, when he IS a king and is STILL despised. He could be there to bring everyone down a notch and say “guys, calm your tits.”

Each character has flaws and motivations to be a hero. Each bounce off one-another: Batman and Green Lantern don’t get along, Batman wishing to use fear as a weapon, and Green Lantern being the moral icon of overcoming fear, Batman and Flash’s shared love of detective work, the trust between the World’s Finest, the concept of the Trinity, which brings conflict. Layman’s terms, Justice League has all the tools that Avengers does, if the writers hired would remember to use all of them just like Whedon did with the Avengers.

A key factor to Darkseid is his minons: Granny Goodness, the Female Furies, Gordon Godfrey, and Desaad. Each of whom are designed to break and take down each member of the League, preying on their weaknesses and essentially fucking with them to the point where they HAVE to realize that they may not always like each other, but they need each other to send these clowns, and their boss, into low orbit. So Darkseid doesn’t even need to speak to have his presence known on film, except when he comes in with Parademons to make the league switch tactics and go “right… Army.” And each would be required and vital to taking him down.

I only have a semester of creative writing (one class being comics) and I can already see aspects of the film take shape and have it be as dynamic as the rest. Like Avengers, you don’t need to persay focus on all 7, I mean hell, Widow and Hawkeye got shunted for the most part, and they still had to develop Nick Fury and Maria Hill AND Coulson! That’s 9 heroes and the villain, which makes 10. Yet the focus was on Iron Man, Cap, Thor, and Hulk. The ones people are paying to see. People are paying to see Batman, Superman, Wonder Woman, and probably Green Lantern due to him still being out there like Hulk was for the kiddies who watch the tv show (which is well-received btw) and going “yeah, he DID have a movie…”

Flash, J’onn, and Aquaman will still be there, but they won’t get “the shine” as much as those 4 would. Process of elimination really at that point.

I’m a fan of both companies, and I want this film to succeed. It has as much potential as Avengers did, and Avengers succeeded on all cylinders.

The hype could give The Justice League a huge box office opening weekend, but if the movie is crap, word will get out fast and it could hurt the films over all performance i.e. Green Lantern. I am extremely happy they’re doing a Justice League finally, but I also hope it’s good. There’s also the point that none of DC/Warner’s comic book movies are a shared universe, so it will be confusing if Man of Steel decides to have sequels while the Justice League movie franchise is also active in the theaters.

Having two different supermans is like having Chris Evans play the regularly titled Cap movies while someone else plays Cap in the Avengers franchise. Pretty lame.

However, the word is DC is planning on rebooting Batman after Justice League and hopefully they use the same actor for the Batman reboot as they do in the Justice League or else it will just be a cluttered mess.

As for Marvel, they did a stellar job on connecting and crossing over their characters to one big epic which is the Avengers storyline. Each movie is like a chapter in a single book. Making all these stories and characters overlap was no easy feat. If it was, Warner/DC would’ve thought of it first.

I highly doubt Man of Steel will blow away the Avengers at the box office. According to my polls, more fans are interested in seeing a Flash movie than the Man of Steel. The trailer does look good, however.

Marvel left out ant man and the wasp, which were founding members. Hawkeye, captain America and the black widow were not founding members

Darkseid is a great choice for a Justice Leauge villain! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aMZkA73x64k

Which is stupidly risky. If the JL film bombs, there goes any chance of seeing films of Flash, Wonder Woman, Aquaman, etc for at least the next decade. Marvel Studios has the better management right now.

I have read both for decades…
Sorry, Marvel owns, no contest.