Apparently fan boys weren’t the only ones surprised by Ben Affleck being cast as the new Bruce Wayne/Batman. Morgan Freeman, who costarred in Batman Begins, The Dark Knight and The Dark Knight Rises as Lucius Fox, Wayne’s business partner and … Continue reading

Morgan Freeman is surprised by Batman casting


Apparently fan boys weren’t the only ones surprised by Ben Affleck being cast as the new Bruce Wayne/Batman.

Morgan Freeman, who costarred in Batman Begins, The Dark Knight and The Dark Knight Rises as Lucius Fox, Wayne’s business partner and Batman’s R&D wizard, was a little taken aback by the announcement. Not because he doesn’t like Affleck in the role, but because he thought WB and DC would put more distance between Christopher Nolan’s films and the reboot.

Here’s what Freeman had to say to USA Today:

“This is the first I am hearing of it. My first reactions are ‘Wow’ and ‘Good luck.’”

How does he feel about Affleck stepping into Christian Bale’s cowl so soon after TDKR?

“After the trilogy, I thought that no one would try it again for a few years more to let this whole thing die down. Because it’s still there. So I don’t know, I hope Ben does well.”

How does Freeman think Affleck, who he acted with in Sum of All Fears, will fare in the role?

“It’s a good question, I have no idea.”

If nothing else, Freeman gets points for honesty.

What about returning to the role of Lucius Fox?

“If the new movie does have a Lucius Fox I don’t think it’s going to be me. It doesn’t seem to work to mix characters in the movies. If you are going to change the lead character, you’re probably going to change all the characters.”

What do you think? Would you like to see any actors from Nolan’s Batman films return to their respective roles, or should DC/WB just recast every part?

I seem to remember Michael Caine saying he’d return to play Alfred is he was asked.


  • Dan Riedel

    If it’s not a 100% reboot, I don’t see why you couldn’t bring these folks back.

    Michael Gough played Alfred in all 4 Batman movies since Burton and Keaton left, and apparently, the Schumacher versions were soft reboots anyway.

  • bdhuson

    All I have to say is Dame Judi Dench. She played M in multiple films and it worked. Bring back Cain and Freeman.


    I like Freeman and Cain but i would rather full reboot.

    The Dark Knight trilogy is its own thing, and whilst rises was partiallt terrible, I would still like to see another film in that set to end it on a high. I really don’t see why we cant have more Nolans batman as well as a rebooted version that fits into JLA world too.

    If people find there being 2 Batman versions flying around at the same time on film confusing, then they possibly aint smart enough to follow a complex storyline in the first place.

    Nolan needs to end on a better film, with the set-up of his Robin, and other rogues like Riddler and Penguin etc.. The two Batman worlds would be different enough to allow both.

  • Dakkar

    Yeah, Michael Gough over several films wasn’t an issue because, even though there were multiple actors donning the cape and cowl, they supposedly all took place in the same continuity. (Much as we might wish the last one didn’t . . . )

    The casting of Dame Judi Dench was a bigger stretch – from the end of Pierce Brosnan’s Bond to the beginning of Daniel’s Craig’s Bond, the only real reboot in the series. Honestly,
    it shouldn’t have worked; but the dame is so damned good, it only feels weird for the first few minutes and then you forget she already had a relationship with the prior Bond and you just go for it.

    What they haven’t talked about with Batman is whether this constitutes a traditional reboot or not – reboots customarily start with a new take on their “origin story.” That won’t be the case here. They’ll be picking an iteration of the Batman saga from a mid-way point, not unlike the original Keaton Batman, which started with a Gotham that already had “the Batman.”

  • The Usual Suspect

    I’m going to disagree here. And also, I don’t believe Patrick Stewart would go from being Charles Xavier to Alfred.


    Well Daredevil became Batman, Johnny storm became Captain America so why not Patrick stewart? I don’t really go by what actors previous roles were, i don’t see why that matters. I go by whether an actor would fit a role. Unless for example an actor played an opposing role in the same franchise, for example, if an actor played superman in one film, it would be jarring if he later starred in a superman reboot as say Lex Luthor. then I’d understand.

  • noahwayne0

    You can’t bring back Caine – his Alfred clearly wanted Bruce to quit being the Batman – and this new Batman is even older so it would be hypocritical to have the same actor come back. But seriously good luck – the Nolan Batman’s were nearly perfectly cast except for Catwoman – there is no way they are going to top it, and they are already off to a bad start

  • Theron

    BvS has nothing to so with the Nolan films.

  • Dan Riedel

    And the Burton movies had nothing to do with the Schumacher ones.

  • Matías Polako

    Yes, they change director and the lead, but they weren’t reboots, they still were sequels, they belong in the same universe… 1,2,3 & 4.

  • Matías Polako

    People, This is a Complete REBOOT they’re not gonna repeat same casting in anything! This will have nothing to do with the Nolan Trilogy…

  • carl napolitano

    Gotta have Cain as Alfred!

  • Bobby

    If the Man of Steel series was related to the Nolan/Bale Dark Knight Trilogy then why didn’t superman ever turn up and offer to help? Okay, one could argue he didn’t get his superman suit/speech from his real Dad until he was 33 (I think that was how old he was in the movie) but even so, he saved the men on the Oil Rig.

    The Dark Knight Rises had a heafty time leap from the Dark knight, so its technically in the future compared to Man of Steel.

    BUT, even without his suit and ghost dad, he still knew he had powers (saved the bus as a boy, saved the oil rig, used his heat vision at school, smashed the guys lorry, etc.) so to not turn up and at least try and save a city that must have made international news as it was being held captive and gonna be blown up anyday now. He could turn up, punch Bane into space and throw into space as well.

    (again) BUT with the time jump between TDK & TDKR, he must have had powers and known he could fly making it even easier to punch Bane, rid the city of the bomb and make everyone love him.

    So that my reasoning for the recasting. Its a, for lack of a better word, new franchise.

  • Dan Riedel

    The answer to your question, the answer is simple. The events of the Dark Knight Rises, happened before Pa Kent died.

    Clark also didn’t learn how to fly until he got the suit, so he could’ve been too far or even out of touch (no tv) to help.

  • Dan Riedel

    I’m not against a reboot. But you all know just as well as I that this is risky as hell.

    Besides the Nolan films (Superman included), name a box office smash that they’ve produced – that has been tied to DC Comics?

    I rest my case.

  • Onyx

    I loved Freeman in the trilogy. But I think they should recast the parts. That way this franchise is all of it’s own thing.

  • Victor Pleitez

    I think that with this new fresh take on Batman we won’t see Lucius Fox, probably mentioned by name only but no screen time, at least in MOS2 (not Batman Vs Superman, WB just call it what everyone knows it is; World’s Finest). My theory, knowing how Snyder plays as close to the material as possible he and Ben will introduce the Paul Dini batman from the cartoon and rocksteady games. He did say an older wiser tech savy batman. I also guess that like Superman’s costume design, Batman is gonna look a lot more different than in previous films and looking at that neww giant Bat symbol only a grey suit and black cowl will make the symbol really pop out. As for Alfred i guess some one like micheal gambon (dumbledore) or the guy who played King THeodan from LOTR.

  • Victor Pleitez

    Yes they did, only difference is that schumacher took what burton established and turned the franchise into batman on ice.

  • Victor Pleitez

    I’d like Ethan Hawke as Joker but only if they do the new 52 version of joker, chalk white skin but he’s dissapointment in Batman makes him cut off his face and use hooks and belts to wear it as mask and always appear smiling. I know Ethan Hawke is weird choice but choosing someone who would be type cast into that role is a cop out. Plus a take on Joker that shows his love/hate obsession for batman would top the Dark Knight if done well.

  • Victor Pleitez

    I think WB is hoping audiences all around are familiar with Batman’s origin and will just skip that part of the batman mythos. However the story for the man of steel sequel will need to at the very least address that batman has existed for a while before Ben Affleck batman makes a first apperance. Had Snyder and Goyer had high hopes that MOS was gonna get greenlit for a sequel, there might’ve been a mention of gotham and it’s vigilante.

  • The Usual Suspect

    That makes sense, I guess what I was thinking was more along the lines of him not fitting the role IMO.

  • dark 00

    I know what you mean, solid performances from all of them involved, but they were all film actors that stood out cos Nolan gave character development the most onscreen time, more than action. It was a character driven film. Loved what Nolan did but it still wasnt perfect.

    If i had to pick at him, Nolan (and this is barrel scrapping) i’d say he needed a fight choreographer especially on the second fight in TDKR and in alot of places in the first, you couldn’t really see batman kicking a**, the feeling of speed/ ferocity is what was focused on not the moves. In the third, Batman managed to get the upper hand without actually doing anything too different to beat Bane.

    also whole bit bout hiding for 8 years…organised crime covered up, but while other crime still exists? Really?

    Synder will focus on ‘experience’ i.e. visuals and effects and story telling secondary. Always has, but Man of Steel gave me hope. Lets see what he can do with ‘his vision’ (cast included). He can suprpas Nolan in a satisfaction/ entertainment sense but never depth/ suspense.

  • dark 00

    Too short and boy looking, people have mentioned Crispin Glover the charlie’s angel villain, have to admit, looks wise he’s perfect. Acting tho meh??

    Best for Joker to be more of an unknown/ although next to affleck they could go bigger- Jim Carrey but a twisted rather than funny performance?, i know he’d never do it but….with Mark Hamill it’d be game over.

  • Victor Pleitez

    But that’s my argument, those actors you listed are who everyone else expects to play joker, cuz they always play the same crazy characters in film. Why not some one who hasn’t played a twisted villain but has the talent to do so.

  • jazzyjules63

    What I want is someone who actually looks like the comics Alfred. Are there any actors today who look like David Niven?

  • Hephaestus1

    “After the trilogy, I thought that no one would try it again for a few years more to let this whole thing die down. Because it’s still there. So I don’t know, I hope Ben does well.”

    Exactly. TDKR came out just last year and WB is already rebooting Batman.

    It’s way too soon.

  • PS

    Ah, the sooner Nolan’s Batman’s are forgotten the better. I want a really movie with the real Batman… though Affleck isn’t it.

  • PS

    There are rumours about Timothy Dalton… there is a picture of him, where he looks exactly like Alfred. Also he was a spy.

  • PS

    BS. It’s a reboot…. so no actors from the old movies. But then again… knowing WB…

  • PS

    And that was stupid so begin with… so forget that BS idea.

  • bdhuson

    Touche intullectuouso. Your verve for convincing debate has won me over.

  • jazzyjules63

    That would be cool

  • Negative_Return

    Make Batman who he really is, the world’s greatest detective. Not some raging, avenging monster with a mask. Batman has a brain. Too bad Hollywood doesn’t.

  • Kevin C. Sullivan

    While I think Ben will make a perfectly fine Batman, I agree with Mr. Freeman that the other roles need to be recast, if for any reason, to give a sense of a new continuity. I think the world of Judy Dench as an actor, but I found it sort of jarring when she played M for both Pierce Brosnan’s Bond and then Daniel Craig. In the end, she did a fine job and it didn’t ruin the movies for me, but I did take me out of things for a moment.

  • iba

    i dont get this whole “lets change actors” thing at all…
    when is it legit to swap out actors?
    - actor dies
    - actor is already too old

    - actor did a shitty job
    nothing of these 3 fits to christian bale…
    much better with marvel characters, where some actors simply play 2 different heroes. so what will happen when there comes another avengers or league of justice or any other collaborating hero movie?

  • jamthemaj

    Yes, but this is a different Batman. It’s not like it’s a sequel and they’re changing actors. Besides, they tried to get Bale and Nolan back, but Nolan said no, so Bale said no. Is is a little soon? Yes, but I love me some Batman, so I don’t care!

  • jamthemaj

    I was going to say the same thing about Judi Dench! I loved her as M, but it didn’t make sense for her to stay since it took Bond back to his origins. She played the role so differently in Craig’s Bonds then she did Brosnan’s though, so it all worked out just fine. I love where the series is going, but I’ll still miss her as M.

  • jamthemaj

    Disagreed on both points… that is all.

  • jamthemaj

    I hope Dalton is cast! That would be fantastic.

  • jamthemaj

    Wayne Enterprises was on a satellite… that counts as a little something I suppose. I agree on the origin. I don’t think they’ll repeat it. Maybe a quick flashback or dream sequence, if anything.

  • Bobby

    That answer is good, but seems wrong, because Old man Kent died in Clarks late teens or early 20s judging by the flash backs which would be around the early 2000′s at the latest, so The Dark Knight Rises would have to be set back then and seeing as they used smart phones in The Dark Knight and even more tech in The Dark Knight Rises that isn’t possible.

    Granted he couldn’t fly (or didn’t learn until he found his space cave ship) but he can run super speed, although to be fair did that even happen in Man of Steel? I only remember that crazy women sidekick of Zod being all Dragonball speed.

    But I do agree he probably isn’t happy about his satellite or half a major city being flattened because two aliens had a dust up.

  • Nathan Paul Kennedy

    I still say Karl Urban would have been a better choice.

  • Victor Pleitez

    Nolan batman won’t work cuz it’s a stand alone series. Like an else world story or batman earth 1. Had wb wised up and approached the Nolan bros. and told them “hey we want to make a jl movie can you fit your batman into that world?”, odds are tdkr would’ve had a different ending and story to acomadate bales inclusion in mos2. But WB was too busy laughing at the idea of avengers and ultimatly neutered any chance of a jl movie.

  • c_r_gauthier

    I’ll say this.. initially, I thought the movie was supposed to be inspired by Frank Miller’s Dark Knight Returns, and as far as I know, had this been a “one-off” I would have loved to see Pierce Brosnan as an older Bruce Wayne/Batman. Since there are many takes on Superman not again like a human, it would have been possible for Cavil to play a more experienced version of Superman without having to look older.

    Now, since Affleck has been chosen to be Batman/Bruce Wayne and is contracted for 15 appearances, well, again, he could be a good solid choice, but let him be coached by Kevin Conroy for his voice and his take on Batman’s as well as Bruce Wayne’s demeanor.

    I hope that there use more of Batman’s detective skills and less the super-hero, leave that to Superman.