Okay, it’s time to sick Gary Busey on some people. Yesterday, I reported on a few items from a recent mailbag on Batman-On-Film. In the report, I made it clear that none of this was to be taken as fact. … Continue reading

[UPDATE] Wonder Woman Won’t Be Kryptonian, and People Are Dumb

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Okay, it’s time to sick Gary Busey on some people. Yesterday, I reported on a few items from a recent mailbag on Batman-On-Film. In the report, I made it clear that none of this was to be taken as fact. I even included the author’s own disclaimer at the top of the mailbag. Then, when it got down to this item regarding Wonder Woman’s origin in Batman vs Superman I specifically prefaced it with “He also speculates that she, and the island of Amazons from which she comes, will be descendants of the Kryptonians that landed on earth centuries ago to survey the planet.”

But then what happened? Everyone and their mother LOST THEIR MINDS. There was a mass deletion in people’s brains of what the definition of “speculation” is, and people started reporting on it and discussing it as if they’d just heard Zack Snyder say it himself.

Now you have guys like Devin Faraci at BadAssDigest writing articles DEBUNKING someone’s personal SPECULATION. That’s right. There are now Thought Police. If you, or anyone you know, has a crazy idea about something you think might be happening in Batman vs Superman, be careful. People will dedicate site space towards condescendingly telling you that you’re wrong even when you make perfectly clear that it’s your own creative musing. “It seems like Batman On Film was just making stuff up and floating it.” Uh…yeah. That’s kinda…sorta…what speculation is. You cook something up in your head, then share it with others.

If you’re one of the people that flew off the handle and ran with the BoF speculation as if it were factual…guess what?

Gary Busey thinks you’re dumb.

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Now that I got that off my chest, there are indeed “inside sources” coming out of the woodwork to say that Wonder Woman will not, in fact, be Kryptonian. Of course, no one has gone on record, but several outlets that claim to be “in-the-know” say that there’s no merit to BoF’s speculation.

Also, for the record, here’s the actual quote from Batman-On-Film that got everyone so fired up. It was so lightweight that I didn’t even give it it’s own bullet-point when I reported on it yesterday:

With all that said, I’d bet a year’s pay – in MONOPOLY money, of course – that the “Amazons” of this cinematic DCU will be descendants of those “ancient Kryptonians” who attempted to set up Kryptonian outposts throughout spacedom thousands and thousands of years ago. Furthermore, I say that Wonder Woman will be powered-down, if you will, relative to Superman because these Amazons have evolved and adapted to living on Earth for hundreds of centuries. And since Kryptonians are produced without any “He’n and She’n” – Jor El and Lara excluded – couldn’t this original Kryptonian on Earth have used this reproductive science to create an all-female race? I say yes!

See the running theme here? It’s all clearly, and directly-stated, his own personal theory.

I suppose the only good thing to come from this blatant example of “Peeple kant read good” is that the idea has seemingly been debunked. Then again, the people doing the debunking are vague and mysterious entities. So who knows, right?

Hmm…my turn to speculate.

I think Superman is going to kill Batman, then feel guilty about it, leading him to don the cowl for the sequel which will be loosely based on Superman: Speeding Bullets.

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UPDATE:

All right,

Let’s tackle this thing. While the vast majority of you understood and appreciated the intent of this piece, there are a couple of you who were bothered. I will actually take time out of my night, because I feel bad, to clarify a couple of things:

1- No, this was not aimed at you. I’m sorry if you felt that I was calling YOU, the readers, dumb. If you re-read the piece, you’d see that it’s aimed at the folks that actually reported this as fact- i.e. outlets, journalists, reporters. (“people started REPORTING on it [...],” “people that flew off the handle and RAN WITH [as in, "running a story"] the BoF speculation[...],” “People will dedicate site space towards condescendingly[...] are examples of me specifying who my targets are). So if you’re a reader and you felt I was attacking you, my apologies. This wasn’t aimed at you.

2- Some of you are accusing me of creating “clickbait,” which isn’t a misunderstanding…as much as it is misguided. If I wanted the Wonder Woman rumor to be clickbait I would’ve A) Put it in the headline, B) NOT prefaced it with a disclaimer, C) NOT referred to it as his personal speculation, and D) I would’ve highlighted it in some way. If you go look at the article, I didn’t even give it it’s own bullet-point. Just sort’ve tacked it onto the end of his other WW answer. Heck, I would’ve lead with it if I was hoping to generate heat, instead of burying it in the middle of the list. I was as surprised as anyone when I came back and saw that that was the item everyone was talking about.

3- In general, there’s entirely too much heat surrounding this harmless thing. Even on BoF this thing was under-played. If you go to the site, there’s no blazing headline: “WONDER WOMAN WILL BE FROM KRYPTON.” There’s nothing anywhere, really, except in the text slapped into the middle of a general mailbox update. In fact, the title of the piece is simply: The BOF Mailbag- “Happy New Year 2014.”

 It’s fairly plain to see that it was never intended to be a big deal. It was his own playful musing with his readers. One he disclaimed, took responsibility for as being HIS theory, and stated in a lighthearted way with the wager of a year’s salary in Monopoly money. That anyone is outraged at him, or furious at me for passing his thoughts along, is kind of baffling- especially since he and I were extremely careful to label this pure speculation.

So, again, to anyone that was offended by this piece- I’m sorry. My anger is aimed solely at the folks who failed in their responsibilities by carrying the story as anything more than one man’s harmless theory. You? The reader? I freakin’ LOVE you. Come on, let’s hug it out. Between you and I, you’re my favorite. Don’t tell anyone…

~ MFR

(@LatinoReviewMFR)

Mario Hugs It Out

Come in for the real thing. Let’s hug this thing out. You know you want to.

  • TJW

    It’s amazing how many of these “journalists” and bloggers lack basic reading comprehension skills. Pre-SAT reading comprehension skills. It’s not an isolated incident.

  • justfortodd

    I think the speculation is actually quite a clever one, though I’m 99.999% sure she’ll be a proper Amazon. The whole thing with the genesis chambers and stuff on MoS does make me wonder (pun not intended) if there could be something like this. Plus there’s the thing with Kara (Supergirl) that everyone seems to have forgotten about. I was fully expecting her to be in the sequel.

  • Trevor DeBus

    Speeding Bullets would actually be an awesome movie. Much in line with the Alternate Universe story where the Green Lantern Ring finds Bruce… ALSO a good story…

  • Matt Norris

    Devin Faraci has always been a prick. Nothing shocking there.

  • Darth Kaos

    Well, if WW was going to be Kryptonian, she aint now, that’s for damn sure. Don’t you know that they’re writing and making this movie based on internet feedback.

  • http://www.batman-on-film.com/ Jett Batmanonfilm

    Brilliant…

  • Leroy

    thank you. its like its everyones first time on the internet, “i cant believe people would yell at someone over their opinion!”….hmmm, pretty sure trolls predate the internet, now it just has more positive affects

  • Frank

    But then again, why post online wild speculation that has no basis in reality in the first place? What’s the point of posting dumb sh!t like that?!

  • Bishop

    Because the internet. They are a fan site, not the AP.

  • Mario-Francisco Robles

    There’s nothing wrong with that, Frank. As long as it’s in the spirit of, “Let’s discuss ideas,” then what’s the harm?

    Again, he didn’t write it in a “hard news” article. He wrote it in a mailbag, which is meant to be like a conversation between him and his readers. They ask questions, and he answers. It’s a casual, friendly environment. There’s no sin in an avowed fan throwing out a theory.

    Not sure why one should be shamed or condemned for saying, “I think Spider-Man might be revealed to have alien powers in the next movie,” as long as they preface it by stating they’re not claiming that it WILL happen.

    Also, just to plainly answer your question. Why? Because it gets people talking. Is it ever a bad thing for fans of a character/story/universe to get together to discuss what may or may not be happening with their favorite properties?

  • Frank

    It’s a moronic thing to do. Report news, report rumours, but why make stuff up? That’s just BS! Whether it’s the internet or not, that’s BS!!

  • blueorangeny

    I actually have Speeding B’s, great read. But yea….I always said until it comes from the horses mouth everything is taken with salt.

  • Jeff

    I thought it was an interesting speculation, but clearly nothing more. Betting a year’s salary in monopoly money was an obvious reference to the fact that it was based on no inside info. It was just a theory being floated and a good one that could tie in to the Kara storyline in the prequel comic to Man Of Steel (and the empty stasis pod in the movie where Kara was). The idea of having WW descend from Kara would be an interesting and unique one, but not likely one they will follow.
    I seriously doubt we find out much about WW’s background in the film. We probably find out she’s got superpowers. I’d guess that they’ll use the other superpowered aliens, The New Gods, as an explanation and tie the Amazons into the Greek gods, tying them all into the legendarium of High Father and Darkseid. But that’s down the line. I think we’ll just get to know WW a bit in the next film as Diana, but we won’t find out much about her. We will find out a lot about Clark and a bit about what Bruce has been up to in that world. I think Batman serves as a foil to Superman, helping nurture him into the Big Blue Boy Scout in some way after the devastation of his first outing.

  • kapow!

    to be fair, the guy who started this rumor said his predictions were based on insider info, industry scuttlebutt and speculation. he didn’t state which of his predictions were based on insider info and which were based on speculation. so, who’s dumb?

    And then there’s this: Mario labeled his article–‘Batman vs Superman’ Insights From An INSIDER

    Oh, and last but not least. Gary Busey can go $%&* himself. :-)

  • kapow!

    I don’t remember people shaming Jett. They ridiculed his prediction that WW might be Kryptonian. And as I posted on this site a few seconds ago, Jett stated upfront that his predictions were based on insider info, industry scuttlebutt and speculation. He didn’t state which predictions were based on insider info and which were based on speculation. honestly, I wouldn’t be surprised if Warner Bros had Jett write this crap so fans would light their hair on fire and keep buzzing about this film. I expect tons more misinformation over the next 18 months. buckle up!

  • Mario-Francisco Robles

    I see you’re not to be reasoned with.

    Disengaging now.

  • Mario-Francisco Robles

    He didn’t really need to specify where this particular fell, though. Just look at his wording:

    “I’d bet” and “I say” are kind of all you need to know. It was clearly HIS speculation.

  • Queen to Bishop

    The piece debunking the “rumor” that was nothing more than speculation is outrageous as well – both implying this was a valid “concept” that wasn’t going to be used in the film and taking an accusatory swipe at Batman-on-Film for the speculation. You’ll find no admission that the “rumor” referenced by BAD was speculation 24 hours later. Pretty disappointing stuff from a website I rather like. Appears the “uncompromising” and the “honest” may have been in conflict this time around.

  • Mario-Francisco Robles

    He didn’t really need to specify where this particular fell, though. Just look at his wording:

    “I’d bet” and “I say” are kind of all you need to know. It was clearly HIS speculation.

    And thanks for referencing the title of the article. Yes, those were HIS insights. It’s interesting that someone that claims to have an ear against the door of the production could come up with such an idea. The funny thing about the readers of his, and ours, and all of these sites…is that they tend to think something was “bogus” or “bs” just because it ended up not becoming true. The truth is, sometimes we hear things very early in the process- a plan, an idea- and we report it because we know you all want the latest, and then- as things in Hollywood often do- the plan changes, negotiations stall, or a suit decides they no longer want to go in that direction…and we’re “called out” for something that, at the time, had been true until it no longer was anymore.

  • Mario-Francisco Robles

    Yeah, the BAD article was really what fired me up today. The gall.

  • noone

    I believe the original articles were intentionally written in such a way as to cause this kinda gotcha moment and bring attention. Clickbait is the new internet journalism.

  • Vegas82

    Most people have some kind of block on indicators like “I’d bet” and just take everything anyone says/writes as a statement of fact. People are going to have to start writing tags much like tags for their writing to keep the masses from panicking.

  • Mario-Francisco Robles

    Sigh. Whatever. I give up.

    lol

  • noone

    Good. Because you’re being profoundly smug about a mistake you and Jett made and trying to pass it onto others

  • LazerTron

    I actually HOPE that this is the case. In Man of Steel and its prequel comic, they made it clear that Krypton spread its citizens throughout the universe thousands of years ago. Kryptonians speak English…and (if Green Lantern still counts…I can never tell with DC properties if something is a reboot, since it usually is) the universe is populated with beings who speak English. It just makes sense that Kryptonians taught the language to surrounding planets that they traded with, and over the generations (and inter-breeding with local populations), each group of Kryptonian descendants evolved in unique ways, so that they no longer had the “purity” that Superman has, and therefore could look very different and have very different abilities.

  • oliver_chang

    Lol clearly you don’t understand the difference between “speculate and discuss” and “making stuffing up.” Next time someone asks you what the next Superman movie is about in the real world, say “you don’t know” because you clearly think “speculating and discussing”=”making stuff up”

  • wat

    “Clickbait.” That’s perfect lol

  • kapow!

    I agree with most of what u just wrote, but c’mon, u can’t tell me u didn’t enjoy the ruckus this WW-Krypton bs caused. It’s like winning the lottery for LR. More controversy, more clicks! And as long as we’re splitting hairs, me and most other fanboys voiced our strong objections IF this ended up being true. If, if, if. On several forums, I even clearly stated I didn’t believe it. Plus, u know what’s really going on. Even if this particular article wasn’t part of a misinformation campaign, WB certainly has plenty of “rumors” to spin until July 2015.

  • ANTI Douche

    Mario, ANY article with the heading… ‘People Are Dumb’…

    Doesn’t have ANY place on LR.

    I, and many more, come to LR, year in and year out…

    To avoid such attitudes we can easily find, distastfully, elsewhere.

    Signed, LR’s ‘current’ top Disqus community poster: ANTI_Douche. ;)

  • Howie

    Talk to samsung’s mike “i’m sorry” bay, about internet feedback, and his turtle ninja’s or something.. Still holding out for Zeus being thanagarian.

  • Joseph Chaisson

    His theory had merit to it, it was a good idea even if it was borrowed from transformers.

  • wat

    It really was a good idea. Fanboys just don’t like when origin stories are tampered with lol

  • ANTI Douche

    Mario, ANY article with the heading… ‘People Are Dumb’…

    Doesn’t have ANY place on LR.

    I, and many more, come to LR, year in and year out…

    To avoid such attitudes we can easily find, distastfully, elsewhere.

    Signed, LR’s ‘current’ top Disqus community poster: ANTI_Douche. ;)

  • Piablo

    Seriously?? Please stop with the holier-than-though speech. This isn’t your first day on the internet nor is it ours. So crying victim about people’s reaction to something that was intentionally stirring the pot is rediculous. We’re all for having a fun discussion that doesn’t involve you insulting the reader’s intelligence.
    Instead of telling folks how to properly react to rediculous speculation, you could have simply pointed out the benefit of such wild rumors being that it draws out official responses. Brag about the cleverness of it all! Just stop whining.

  • Piablo

    Lol! Well said. Pretty bad when the writers are trolling with the rest of us!

  • kapow!

    Yep, calling your readership “Dumb,” or implying they are is, umm…DUMB (looking at you, Mr. Robles). I’m gonna stay away from LR for the next week, or longer. Plenty of other sites! If we vote with our dollars at the movies, we can vote with our clicks on the net. Duh.

  • Frank

    Speculation, based on no evidence at all, is indeed making things up. It is YOU who clearly don’t know the meaning of the word speculation.

  • Mario-Francisco Robles

    This post of yours is amusing to be on a few levels:

    1- “Crying victim” is simply not something that has occurred. If you think that’s what I’ve done, then you misunderstand my meaning and stand firmly in the minority in thinking so. Why would I cry victim anyway? Nothing happened to me. It’s the original author at BoF that’s getting put to task for no particular reason, not me.

    2- The primary focus of my rant was to call out OUTLETS, journalists, and reporter types. People who took Jett’s harmless speculation, passed it off as some hot-off-the-presses leaked news and turned it into something bigger than it was ever intended to be. So I’m sorry if you, as a reader, felt I was attacking you. I was not.

    3- “you could have simply pointed out the benefit of such wild rumors being that it draws out official responses,” I actually kind of DID do that, except I didn’t mention “official responses” since there haven’t been any yet.

    4- Sorry you think playfully taking down some clowns, interjecting Gary Busey, and ending with jokey comic book speculation counts as “whining.” I was really just having fun :) And still am!

  • Mario-Francisco Robles

    It was actually a beautiful…accident?

    I literally thought NOTHING of Jett’s theory. I threw it in there cause it had something to do with WW and I wanted to round out her bullet point. I was very surprised when it took off and dominated the discussion.

    I also don’t get where people keep coming with the “WB leaked this” conspiracy theory…when, if you actually read the original piece, it’s clear this was one guy’s playful theory thrown into the pot.

  • Mario-Francisco Robles

    My only mistake was thinking folks wouldn’t understand the difference between speculation and news.

    I didn’t erroneously report anything.

  • Mario-Francisco Robles

    Hmmm…I’m gonna address this in one mass massage below, for all to see.

  • ScreamFace

    I liked the idea.

  • Mario-Francisco Robles

    All right,

    Let’s tackle this thing. While the vast majority of you understood and appreciated the intent of this piece, there are a couple of you who were bothered. I will actually take time out of my night, because I feel bad, to clarify a couple of things:

    1- No, this was not aimed at you. I’m sorry if you felt that I was calling YOU, the readers, dumb. If you re-read the piece, you’d see that it’s aimed at the folks that actually reported this as fact- i.e. outlets, journalists, reporters. (“people started REPORTING on it,” “people that flew off the handle and RAN WITH [as in, "running a story"] the BoF speculation,” “People will dedicate site space towards condescendingly” are examples of me specifying who my targets are). So if you’re a reader and you felt I was attacking you, my apologies. This wasn’t aimed at you.

    2- Some of you are accusing me of creating “clickbait,” which isn’t a misunderstanding…as much as it is misguided. If I wanted the Wonder Woman rumor to be clickbait I would’ve A) Put it in the headline, B) NOT prefaced it with a disclaimer, C) NOT referred to it as his personal speculation, and D) I would’ve highlighted it in some way. If you go look at the article, I didn’t even give it it’s own bullet-point. Just sort’ve tacked it onto the end of his other WW answer. Heck, I would’ve lead with it if I was hoping to generate heat, instead of burying it in the middle of the list. I was as surprised as anyone when I came back and saw that THAT was the item everyone was talking about.

    3- In general, there’s entirely too much heat surrounding this harmless thing. Even on BoF this thing was under-played. If you go to the site, there’s no blazing headline: “WONDER WOMAN WILL BE FROM KRYPTON.” There’s nothing anywhere, really, except in the text slapped into the middle of a general mailbox update. In fact, the title of the piece is simply: The BOF Mailbag- “Happy New Year 2014.”

    It’s fairly plain to see that it was never intended to be a big deal. It was his own playful musing with his readers. One he disclaimed, took responsibility for as being HIS theory, and stated in a lighthearted way with the wager of a year’s salary in Monopoly money. That anyone is outraged at him, or furious at me for passing his thoughts along, is kind of baffling- especially since he and I were extremely careful to label this pure speculation.

    So, again, to anyone that was offended by this piece- I’m sorry. My anger is aimed solely at the folks who failed in their responsibilities by carrying the story as anything more than one man’s harmless theory. You? The reader? I freakin’ LOVE you. Come on, let’s hug it out. Between you and I, you’re my favorite. Don’t tell anyone…

    ~ MFR

  • CoolGuest

    1. Your well-intentioned reply was too long-winded to appear professional. Plus, all your best lines got watered down. Yes, there be craft to this writing thang.
    2. For many years, almost anything related to a live-action Wondy has blown up the web. “Burying” a WW item that even hints she’ll be Kryptonian is the equivalent of standing nude in Central Park and wildly waving your hands–then defending yourself to cops by saying: But it was nighttime!
    3. Hugs are good. Concise writing might be better. Good luck to you…

  • Mario-Francisco Robles

    Well, I was going more for conversational than professional.

    But thanks!

    Cheers to you, sir.

  • Shadwell

    Agree with Frank. Much ado about NOTHING, which in itself is dumb.

  • Craig Harrison

    Kryptonians speak, read and write Kryptonian. They even invented the written language for the film. Green Lanterns all speak different languages that their rings automatically translate.

  • Bryan Føntez

    Am I the only one who REALLY REALLY likes the Kryptonian idea and thinks that it’s the only way to truly make sense of her powers without getting all magical and mythological on us?

    Linking her as a descendant of the Kryptonians that landed on Earth thousands of years ago would be genius to be honest, and a completely perfect way to tie everything together.

    I love it. What the hell is all the fuss about? It also connects her to Superman in way that’s never been done and therefore opens more possibilities for romance and what not.

  • LazerTron

    1. Ah…I must admit…I have not watched more than a few minutes of Green Lantern to know that about the film. What I watched was more than enough.

    2. Weird…I did watch Man of Steel, and Zod seemed to know English. He was at least familiar with it.

  • Craig Harrison

    And when the Kryptonian ship broadcast it’s message to Earth it did it in every language. Kryptonian technology being used as a universal translator I would guess. A Super-BabelFish if you will.

  • http://antmanx68.deviantart.com AntmanX

    My speculation is that Superman should travel to the remains of Krypton but accidentally end up on Planet Hulk and just have the next movie be about that. Stop the presses!

  • James Scarbrough

    A few fan-boys with their panties in a bunch, nothing fro you to worry about. Maybe for the best, weed out these sensitive girly types.

  • James Scarbrough

    Man grow up. The fact you think he has to defend his writing to you is ridiculous. I think he nailed it on the head with the title and got your panties in a bunch.

  • James Scarbrough

    Thank you. Great comment!

  • James Scarbrough

    Nicely put. Gary Busey should give this piablo a solid smack for this comment.

  • James Scarbrough

    I have to give props to Mario-Francisco Robles for keeping his sanity after reading some of these insane comments here. I have never seen so many commentors throwing tantrums over something as small as this article and discussion. Then he has to defend it again with an update. Man, I hope he gets a bonus on top of his wages for this. He deserves it.

  • Howie

    It’s disturbing you think it’s genius WW & supes being cousin’s opens more possibilities for romance -you love it!?

  • Howie

    Better yet, Bruce Wayne builds a Hulk BusterSuit to battle superman; beating marvel to the punch of having the freaking buster suit on screen, before marvel does.

  • AlexiasLazar

    It is painful..

  • Howie

    Commenting on comments(defending or not) is not an update to the article/story in any form whatsoever. Maybe a clarification, retraction? No update. Seems like he’s just digging a deeper hole, foot firmly planted in the huggers mouth, and lacking any form of self respect or cajones for that matter. too late to apologize? #itstoolate

  • Can I have a job II?

    Can I have a job?

  • DaviD Miller

    In the Paradise Island from the “visionary” Zack Znyder the Amazons are ugly and anorexic.

  • runner_j

    I think that while it is very easy for people jump off the handle on the Internet for no reason, in this case I can understand why it happened .

    The disclaimer Mr. Ramey posts in his column says the following: “Responses to reader’s questions are based on inside information, industry scuttlebutt, and my opinion. Nothing should be taken as confirmed news unless explicitly stated as such.”

    Although Mr. Ramey states this bit about Wonder Woman is speculative, one could reasonably conclude that any bit of speculation he shares would be based on some understanding he has gained about the production, thereby informing his speculation. He’s not some random fan from nowhere with no clue what’s going on, giving an uninformed opinion.

    That leads to my second reason: If people jumped to the wrong conclusion here, it’s probably because it sounds very much like something Warner Brothers would do. There’s the J.J. Abrams Superman script that got exposed by Drew McWeeny on AICN years ago, and got aborted in a hurry because of the widespread condemnation from fans (which, frankly, Man of Steel bears a similarity to in some ways). Then there’s the infamous Tim Burton version with Nicholas Cage as Superman that almost got off the ground. And of course, Joel Schumacher’s Batman and Robin, which killed that iteration of the Batman franchise.

    It’s easy to imagine the notion of Wonder Woman as a Kryptonian being something Warner Brothers would glean to, because they have historically shown little to no understanding or faith in their comic book characters, seemingly needing to reinvent the wheel because they just don’t think the characters as intended would work in a film. The good films that have been made about Superman or Batman were made in spite of the studio’s ignorance, by strong filmmakers who had a clear understanding of the characters, had faith in them and crafted movies that lived up to their promise.

  • Piablo

    Understood sir, and thanks for the updated response. My general reaction was far less being offended but more about not understanding your reaction. I assume that a news/scoop group would want a big loud response to a story. I never thought you meant it as linkbait, it seemed very plausible to me. I even thought the idea of Wonder Woman being a kryptonian descendant was an awesome idea! And I knew the staunch comic supporters would have a fit. Those comic guys are both readers, and writers for sites like LR. No offense, I see you and the other writers on the same plane as the rest of us, we are all fan boys/girls congregating to talk shop on movies. We all get excited and that goes for other writers who might find themselves inclined to debunk someone elses opinion, because that is their opinion and prerogative. So I didn’t understand your frustration, certainly not to the level of sicking Gary Busey on them, (hysterical!)
    Any way, bringing it in, hugging it out, keep up the good work Mr Robles.

  • Piablo

    You can take the knee pads off now…

  • Hando316

    When I flipped out, it wasn’t meant on the report or you. I understand how the rumor mill works and take things with a grain of truth. Now that said, I think that writers of films now a days aren’t that keen on real back story / knowledge of source material and just throw shit together and we get a bastardasation of what it should be ie: extra cameos such as Nightwing or even Wonder Woman when it was just a Superman / Batman film to start with. Granted things get tweeked from the source, but not to the extent that the rumor suggested.

  • James Scarbrough

    Man who is on their knees now? Your reaction was a knee jerk one that is typical with fan-boys.

  • James Scarbrough

    Your not real good with the reading thing are you? Go back and look at the article. Man, some people are thick.

  • Dan Riedel

    LMAO! You get a big hug for referencing Speeding Bullets, that’s my favorite elseworlds title, lol.

    That being said, the stills for the film haven’t even come out yet, so everything we hear is mere speculation. We all had our hopes up when Bale and Nolan were rumored to be attached to the JL storyarchs and many, including myself gauged our eyes out thereafter once we heard Afflack would be tapped to don the cowl.

    All of these comments are flights of fancy at the end of the day, but hey, that’s what generates buzz for WB. A good thing.

    I’m still thinking that WW is going to be from Krypton until they either a) officially say otherwise b) finally explain why that Kryptonian ship crashed on earth 20,000 years ago.

    Having WW be a Kryptonian descendant like Mon-El would make a great deal of sense to a rather non-sensical character. I mean, why would Wonder Woman be able to fly (probably as fast as Superman) and yet, have an invisible jet? Not to mention that the airplane was an invention of MEN on earth. Having anything else besides that, outside of inherited tech from their ancestors (read: Kryptonian) would be rather stupid. Not to mention that she is the ONLY one that could successfully create offspring with Kal.

    If she’s not Kryptonian, than all of those character traits should be stricken from the movie series altogether, because they make little sense. Sorry, you can’t have a human mate with a protozoa and expect a human – genetics doesn’t work that way.

    So if the movie is going to stay “grounded” in reality, and not have “magic,” they’ll have to have both Superman and Wonder Woman genetically linked somehow, like how a tiger can mate with a lion – in spite of the fact they have different traits. They have a mutual ancestor. Otherwise, the “cop-out” approach is to just never cross that bridge. I’d rather have her be a descendent of Kryptonians who’ve genetically adapted to earth.

    But at the end of the day, as I mentioned before, Affleck aside, the biggest issue on my end will be the treatment of Doomsday. If they make him a goon like the WB did Bane in Batman and Robin, then I’ll treat this entire franchise like that abortion, and it’ll be boycotted in theaters. By my math, that would mean $90 in revenue per film gone up in smoke.

  • ANTI Douche

    Your ‘Update’ is equally condescending, plus imature AND still…

    Doesn’t take responsibility for referring to ‘People Are Dumb’.

    How about NOT calling US or ‘FOLKS’ Dumb, at all.

  • oliver_chang

    nono some people think speculation=facts or making stuff up. so we need another tag.

  • Jon Garza

    the actress is not ugly and she can start eating for the role

  • A very concerned fan

    Wait! WONDERWOMAN is KRYPTONIAN?!! WTF!! NO WAY!

  • Justice4All

    TLDR, Obviously you hate Wonder Woman. Obviously you hate LR fans and Obviously you meant all of this to be serious. I’m on to your game, and I will not stand by and let the good readers of Latino Review be desecrated by Gary Busey or that asshole Ron Pearlman. You’ve gone too far this time, and I think the people have spoken. We deserve better! We deserve someone who doesn’t speculates but articulates!

    ARTICULATE DON’T SPECULATE!

    ARTICULATE DON’T SPECULATE!

    ARTICULATE DON’T SPECULATE!

    ARTICULATE DON’T SPECULATE!

    ARTICULATE DON’T SPECULATE!

  • commonsense

    This response was kind of Douchey. #justsayin

  • confusedanddazed

    Wait?! Shia Lebauf was a Kryptonian?

  • Datruth

    Articulate Don’t Speculate!

  • ANTI Douche

    I respect your right to have your own opinion.

    #ButImNotCertainWhyYouHashtaggedIt